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This is a Renew original recording.
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Hello and welcome to Believe in People, a podcast where we have open, honest and sometimes challenging conversations about addiction recovery and breaking the stigma that surrounds them.
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At Renew, we follow NICE guidelines, which are evidence-based recommendations for health and care in England and Wales.
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They help professionals like us prevent ill health, promote good health and improve the quality and care of services.
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That means that our approach to drug and alcohol recovery is structured, research-backed and focused on long-term solutions.
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But today's guest, he, sometimes takes a very different approach.
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Our guest, daniel Ramson, better known as TalkToBigDan, doesn't do referrals, waiting lists or therapy rooms.
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Instead, he offers straight-talking, tough-love, one-on-one coaching based on his own real-life experiences of addiction recovery and rebuilding his life.
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Dan's insight on addiction is based on his personal journey.
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He believes that addiction is not a disease but a choice that requires accountability, and that discipline and structure are key, with focused approach on action.
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This conversation is raw, unfiltered and deeply personal.
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Dan shares his journey from partying with rock stars and getting sectioned to becoming one of the most sought-after addiction coaches in Europe.
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On this podcast, we respect all lived experiences and believe in giving people a platform to share their story.
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While Dan's approach differs from the guidelines.
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We recognise that recovery is personal and different things work for different people.
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Whether you agree, disagree or simply want to hear another perspective, this episode offers valuable insights into one man's journey of transformation.
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I kicked off my conversation with Dan by asking what key moments made him decide that enough was enough and how he managed to break free from the party lifestyle and turn his life around despite facing such overwhelming challenges.
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I've never had a line of cocaine sober.
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No, never Do you have to be under the influence of alcohol.
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I went to.
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I remember watching Berry vs Rochdale.
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I've been really good Berry vs Rochdale.
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And they said you better go to.
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You better go to doctors and get some tablets and stop drinking.
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So I went fuck sake, I will do.
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Yeah, go on.
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And I thought I've got Berry vs Rochdale local team.
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You know big downs coming yeah fucking anyway.
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So I went to the doctors, got some tablets and stopped drinking and I ended up having some coke.
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Fuck me, I was ill.
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Yeah, oh, fucking.
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I'll never do that.
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Anyone who's watching this never ever get them tablets for drinking and have coke in.
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I had the worst anxiety.
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I was fucking stood in the garden for six, the anxiety ridden Really I would think why have I done that?
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But I had to have something, yeah.
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I had to get something and I was on these tablets and I had to get a bit more.
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Everyone does it.
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To get a bit more, yeah, and that was me.
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Well, that was it.
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I think that's it with cocaine as well, because you have the threshold, don't you?
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I think, like right now, or cocaine?
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You'd be out for a week.
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Exactly, do you know what I mean?
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But it gets to the point where you have to start taking a ridiculous amount just to get what you used to get with such a small amount Six, seven weeks.
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Seven weeks.
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I remember you used to run bandages.
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You used to come in.
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I couldn't even see my lad used to come in and you couldn't see.
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I couldn't even read.
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I was fucking.
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I had some.
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You know when I'm binging.
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I shouldn't be sat here.
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Daniel John Ramson shouldn't be sat here now.
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I should be like a picture or a plaque in a graveyard.
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Yeah, yeah, I've just pray to his, his place, where he's actually at.
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I played about 3-4 times.
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Bring me luck.
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Never pray for money never pray for wealth just say bring me luck, keep me well, keep me healthy, you know.
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And he killed himself, I remember me and my dad found him kicked door and he found him killed himself, overdosed.
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Best man you'll ever meet in addiction.
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How does that impact you seeing someone that you look up to and then finding them in that way.
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You know what?
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He was a good man, you know.
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You know why he was a good man.
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I don't laugh, but it's funny Because he borrowed about 1,500 quid off of me before he killed himself, right, and he'd come back and give me my money.
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He said I see you number one, because my dad's got 20 kids, 15 kids, 17 kids, so he used to call me number one he said I'll see you later number one.
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I said see you later, uncle Paul, and he killed himself.
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But he come and give me that money back.
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So I go, I go to his grave and I pray.
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I say, give me some luck, come on you know, I've got a blood test coming up.
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Give me some fucking luck come on, come on.
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You know what?
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I mean give me you know, are you a spiritual person in that way, then your life's planned your life's planned.
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There's nothing sure oh fucking nothing my life's planned.
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I was planned to do everything I've done there's nothing sure big believer in like fate and how that works everything.
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I believe I was supposed to meet you.
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I was supposed to meet, you know, my wife meet up with them.
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Three kids supposed to your life's planned to meet what you do.
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That's it, my life's completely planned.
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I put it what I say to people.
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Well, just put yourself, you know, like a boat in a big lake, yeah, and let the wind blow it, you know, let the wind, blow it, and wherever that little dinghy goes, that's my life, my life's just planned to go where it goes.
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So if I die tomorrow, I'm planned to meet whoever I meet.
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So me nearly dying, me being a lunatic as a kid, me making a good name of myself yeah, all them things are planned so I don't I don't worry about it.
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I don't change it.
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I don't worry about the past.
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I don't worry about the things.
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I don't worry about not being the best daddy in the world, because I wasn't.
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I'd been the best husband.
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I was a fucking Horrendous husband.
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Horrendous, but I don't regret it because my life plan now.
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You know my life.
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I got sober at 40.
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My life started at 40.
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I had 40 years of lunacy Fucking, to be honest, from when I was born to 40 years old fucking complete lunacy.
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You know what I mean.
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I call it career.
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Yeah, and I thought I'd hear career.
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So now I got sober at 40.
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My life started at new life, my normal life.
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Yeah, because all going back, I never did anything wrong sober.
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Do you know when I was sober?
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I?
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got cocaine.
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I never did anything wrong.
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Is that stuff that drink cocaine used to fucking do something to me?
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It's like no, stopping me, but that's what?
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yeah, but your life's planned what was the moment then that where you obviously getting sober 40, to have that many years of substance misuse, that party lifestyle, as you said?
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What was the moment that made you think, right, I need to stop now.
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Then, Well, when I nearly died, I was hospital three times.
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When I nearly died, I was just carried on drinking, you know that was from death, you know that was minutes, days, whatever it was.
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I'm quite still drinking.
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My lad was 16.
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He's 16 on Sunday.
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Hmm, so he's 18 on Sunday, so he's 16.
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And I said I'll be sober for his 16th birthday, yeah.
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And he'd come up.
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He'd come up just before his birthday, the 19th.
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Yeah, on the 17th, yeah, 17th.
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So on the 19th, when he came up and see me on his birthday, I was sober, yeah, that's why I did it for his 16th birthday yeah, so so two years today, I'm sober.
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I don't call it sober, I don't.
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I'm normal, I don't use.
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I'm not.
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I'm not celebrating.
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I'm not here celebrating.
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Oh, look at me I.
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I don't use that word.
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I don't use the word sober.
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I'm just a normal human being.
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I don't wake up looking for a drink.
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I don't wake up in the morning being sick.
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Yeah, I don't wake up thinking where the fuck have I been?
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Why am I in this bed?
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You know what have I done last night.
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You know I don't wake up yearning for beer.
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You know what I mean.
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To realise that now, then at 42, that you don't have to wake up feeling like that.
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What took you so long to get to that point?
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I know you said you've done it for your son, but to be using substances, from starting cocaine at 18, being normal by?
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40.
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Normal, normal, you mean.
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Yeah, but 22 years of it.
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Why did it take so long, do you think?
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Because I didn't want to stop.
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No, did I.
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When it's your time to stop, stop, like I say, my life is planned.
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Yeah, my life is planned.
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So, really, yeah, if I, unless I, would have died.
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This is why I help so many people, right, because if I would have had someone strong behind me, I might have stopped earlier.
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I didn't have anybody because I was the strong man.
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I was always the blow.
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You could tell me what to do.
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yeah, I used to have my ex-wife crying oh, please don't put us through this.
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I had kids crying.
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I didn't give a fuck because I didn't want to just change yeah.
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And so now, when I help these people, that's why I help somebody, because they want somebody strong and they go.
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What are the AIs of these people, danny?
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We've tried everything.
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Me saying you're fucking not drinking today, put yourself together.
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You were funny call it fucking.
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Stop it.
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I wouldn't.
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I might stop drinking, but I didn't have anybody.
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But all this, like everything's gonna be all right, shit.
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Yeah, you know, don't worry about it.
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You know, have you because obviously, yeah, and I get that to the fact that you are.
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I mean, how tall are you?
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Six, six, six, foot six.
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You know I don't think people are gonna yeah, but there's something about that, just being a man like oh he'll sort himself out.
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He'll sort his own shit out, do you know?
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yeah, but it's knowledge, it's knowledge, you know.
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I look back at my knowledge and think why I could have stopped.
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I did stop, yeah, but why?
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Do you know why I slipped back into it?
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Because I could, because it's just weakness, weakness, I get away.
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I get away with it.
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Drinking is about getting away with it.
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Yeah, you know, I mean, you're missing the ex-wife, you, you, you stop drinking.
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How we're finished?
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Yeah, but as soon as you got into a bug, I started again.
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You can come back home with your kids.
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Yeah, you can go on holiday.
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I'll go on holiday with you.
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Yeah, fair enough.
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Yeah, that was you know, that's what I did, but then as soon as you get a weakness, you're off.
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I had a rent it's horrendous four years.
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I don't regret.
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I don't regret a thing because I don't, I don't think I regret is when I.
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I got sent home from Florida and I got sectioned oh, okay, that's what I get tell me about that.
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Then what happened there?
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Oh, fucking hell, that's a fucking story.
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Well, I booked a holiday to go to Florida with my wife and kids and my mum to Flew to Florida Fucking.
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Well, the night before I went Bought a bag of cocaine.
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No, no, on the way to the airport I bought a bag of cocaine.
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So I thought I'd be a bit happier yeah, a bit happier Fucking cocaine In the airport, not in the airport.
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Hotel Er Stayed overnight.
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My lad caught me in the morning Drinking a bottle of wine At four o'clock in the morning.
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In the hotel bar I meet the lad meet lad fucking you know.
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And the next thing, that was it.
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I went to Florida.
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Drinking wife stood up on the plane, went don't serve him, he's an alcoholic.
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Fucking.
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Went there, crashed out of your car.
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Second day sober I was as well, fucking sober crashed my car into another car.
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Police were looking for me.
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I tried and next thing met this bloke.
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Went to get some cocaine.
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End up in the got some of the cocaine.
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Next thing I'm fucking off me.
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I don't know where it was, swimming with crocodiles, police looking for me Fucking.
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Next thing I don't know if I got knocked out or someone fell over.
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Got a cut on my eye in hospital.
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This is on a family holiday.
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Four days in yeah, Cost me a lot of money, family, perfect holiday In hospital, under 20, not Angar.
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But they took me in police, took me in, didn't know what happened to me, kept me in hospital for 24 hours.
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Come out.
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My mum says you have to go home.
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You have to go home.
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So, fuck's sake, right.
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So dropped me off at the airport, sent me home Jet lag.
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Got on.
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The call came when I come home got fucking psychosis.
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Fucking running up rivers.
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I was up with a foot and my mate caught me hiding under his car 4-4, street.
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Fucking.
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That lay there, he's under his car.
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I was off my head.
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Next thing I went to my mate's house my best pals.
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He rang the police on me.
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He said you better come and get him because he's fucking not right.
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So police come looking for me, went home.
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I said why?
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Oh, we're just wondering.
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So I'm going to the lay districts.
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I was off my head.
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It's psychosis, you know.
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I was fucking off my head.